Election 2012

Charles Bertram / Lexington (Ky.) Herald-Leader

Charles Bertram Lexington (Ky.) Herald-Leader Two workers use lint rollers as they prepare the stage Wednesday for tonight's vice-presidential debate in Danville, Ky. Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, will joust starting at 6 p.m. PDT, moderated by ABC News' Martha Raddatz.

0 comments | Print

Biden, Ryan square off today in vice-presidential debate

Published: Thursday, Oct. 11, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 1A
Last Modified: Monday, Oct. 15, 2012 - 6:41 am

DANVILLE, Ky. – Vice President Joe Biden will take the stage today to debate Rep. Paul Ryan in a matchup that Democrats hope will restore some of the momentum they've lost since President Barack Obama's widely panned performance in last week's debate.

Republicans, meanwhile, want to bolster their own standing, which polls indicate has improved since nominee Mitt Romney's strong showing against the president.

Tonight's debate will be the only contest between the two men, but it could be critical for the Obama campaign, which finds its numbers falling in key battleground states since the first debate.

"There's some thinking in conservative circles that (Mitt) Romney did so well and Obama did so poorly that a really good showing by Ryan could firmly establish a trend of momentum for the Republicans," said Keith Appell, a Republican consultant who advises conservative groups.

Even Democrats acknowledge that the stakes are higher now for Biden to deliver a solid performance.

"For Democrats, it's an opportunity to start the comeback narrative," said Fred Yang, a Democratic pollster. "It's a chance to restart, to acknowledge that we had a tough debate, but we've had some improving jobs numbers and we've got momentum heading into the next round."

The 90-minute faceoff at Centre College in Danville, Ky., which starts at 6 p.m. PDT, will cover foreign and domestic issues. Martha Raddatz, chief foreign correspondent for ABC News, will moderate.

Though Ryan has little foreign policy experience, Biden does. But Ryan is likely to push Romney's charge that the administration has mishandled events in the Middle East, particularly the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya that resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.

Expect Biden eager to cast himself as a champion of the working class and to portray his opponent as a far-right conservative and a member of the unpopular House of Representatives. He'll look to tie Ryan to his budget plan, which cuts into popular programs, and charge that he wants to radically change Medicare and cut taxes for the wealthy.

Ryan will likely portray Biden as partner in a presidency that has failed to fix the economy and improve conditions for millions of jobless Americans.

While the campaigns might view this debate as critical, analysts say that it's just as likely to be forgotten as soon as Tuesday, when Obama and Romney meet for a second time. They will take questions from undecided voters in a town hall-style encounter in New York. Their final debate will be Oct. 22 in Florida.

The vice-presidential debate "rapidly becomes fairly irrelevant" by the time the next presidential matchup occurs, Charlie Cook, an independent political analyst and editor and publisher of The Cook Political Report, said at a post-presidential debate briefing last week held by the National Journal.

"I'm thinking maybe vice-presidential debates should carry a disclaimer: 'This debate is for entertainment purposes only,' " he said.

Analysts point in particular to the 1988 debate between the vice-presidential contenders when the patrician Democratic Texas senator, Lloyd Bentsen, memorably took apart his younger Republican counterpart, Dan Quayle, with a withering quip about how the young Indiana senator was "no Jack Kennedy." But Democrats still lost badly that year.

Still, a good performance by Biden would be a tonic to the Obama campaign, and a strong showing by Ryan in his first national debate would undoubtedly further energize Republicans and add to Romney's momentum.

Biden came off the campaign trail nearly a week ago to prepare, with mock debates using Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland playing the Ryan role. Van Hollen serves on the House Budget Committee with Ryan, its chairman. The campaign has even dispatched Obama's chief campaign strategist, David Axelrod, to Biden's debate preparation – a move the campaign insisted had been in the works even before the first debate.

Ryan has spent five days on debate preparation. Standing in for Biden was attorney Ted Olson, the U.S. solicitor general under President George W. Bush, who successfully argued the contested 2000 presidential contest before the U.S. Supreme Court.

A new poll suggests that neither has much of an edge with voters and both are less popular than Biden and his 2008 opponent, then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, were when they debated. Just 39 percent of voters viewed Biden favorably in the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, while 44 percent viewed Ryan favorably.

Ryan enjoys a slight edge in the expectations game, which both sides have – predictably – been trying to lower. Republicans have cast Ryan as a rookie debater and Biden as a pro.

Romney told CNN that his running mate "may have done something in high school," while Biden's camp notes that Ryan is a 14-year veteran of Congress and chairman of one of its most powerful committees.

© Copyright The Sacramento Bee. All rights reserved.

Read more articles by Lesley Clark



About Comments

Reader comments on Sacbee.com are the opinions of the writer, not The Sacramento Bee. If you see an objectionable comment, click the "Report Abuse" link below it. We will delete comments containing inappropriate links, obscenities, hate speech, and personal attacks. Flagrant or repeat violators will be banned. See more about comments here.

What You Should Know About Comments on Sacbee.com

Sacbee.com is happy to provide a forum for reader interaction, discussion, feedback and reaction to our stories. However, we reserve the right to delete inappropriate comments or ban users who can't play nice. (See our full terms of service here.)

Here are some rules of the road:

• Keep your comments civil. Don't insult one another or the subjects of our articles. If you think a comment violates our guidelines click the "Report Abuse" link to notify the moderators. Responding to the comment will only encourage bad behavior.

• Don't use profanities, vulgarities or hate speech. This is a general interest news site. Sometimes, there are children present. Don't say anything in a way you wouldn't want your own child to hear.

• Do not attack other users; focus your comments on issues, not individuals.

• Stay on topic. Only post comments relevant to the article at hand.

• Do not copy and paste outside material into the comment box.

• Don't repeat the same comment over and over. We heard you the first time.

• Do not use the commenting system for advertising. That's spam and it isn't allowed.

• Don't use all capital letters. That's akin to yelling and not appreciated by the audience.

• Don't flag other users' comments just because you don't agree with their point of view. Please only flag comments that violate these guidelines.

You should also know that The Sacramento Bee does not screen comments before they are posted. You are more likely to see inappropriate comments before our staff does, so we ask that you click the "Report Abuse" link to submit those comments for moderator review. You also may notify us via email at feedback@sacbee.com. Note the headline on which the comment is made and tell us the profile name of the user who made the comment. Remember, comment moderation is subjective. You may find some material objectionable that we won't and vice versa.

If you submit a comment, the user name of your account will appear along with it. Users cannot remove their own comments once they have submitted them.

hide comments
Sacramento Bee Job listing powered by Careerbuilder.com
Quick Job Search
Buy
Used Cars
Dealer and private-party ads
Make:

Model:

Price Range:
to
Search within:
miles of ZIP

Advanced Search | 1982 & Older



Find 'n' Save Daily DealGet the Deal!

Local Deals